That conjuration is specifically designed NOT to be ecstatic or to manifest Bune in a major way. It is designed to get him to do your job with minimal fuss. I am a big believer that the Goets and such are best used for short term work with well defined parameters.
When talking about practical magic be careful with equating "stronger" which I would think would be judged from the result, with ecstatic which would be judged from your feelings or experiences during the ritual itself. They are not the same thing, and often the presence of a lot of ecstatic feelings, threshold sickness, or weird phenomena is a sign that you magic is NOT going where it should.
If you do a spell to get a promotion at work, and the ritual is accompanied by candle flames jumping off the wicks, light bulbs bursting, and feelings of being "buzzed" or enebriated and energized by all the energy, you should ask yourself - why is all that energy still hanging round instead of going to its target? It may be associated phenomina, but it may be symptomatic of a misfire due to poor magical link.
If you want to get more ecstatic results with Goetia, you can do the whole shibang as it is laid out in the book. but ultimately the depth of which you "feel" the magic, enter into trance, or see into the astral is more about you than any ritual. Do you meditate? Do you do internal energy work? Do you practice gazes and such? Its better to improve the wizard than the wand if you get my dift...
When talking about practical magic be careful with equating "stronger" which I would think would be judged from the result, with ecstatic which would be judged from your feelings or experiences during the ritual itself. They are not the same thing, and often the presence of a lot of ecstatic feelings, threshold sickness, or weird phenomena is a sign that you magic is NOT going where it should.
If you do a spell to get a promotion at work, and the ritual is accompanied by candle flames jumping off the wicks, light bulbs bursting, and feelings of being "buzzed" or enebriated and energized by all the energy, you should ask yourself - why is all that energy still hanging round instead of going to its target? It may be associated phenomina, but it may be symptomatic of a misfire due to poor magical link.
If you want to get more ecstatic results with Goetia, you can do the whole shibang as it is laid out in the book. but ultimately the depth of which you "feel" the magic, enter into trance, or see into the astral is more about you than any ritual. Do you meditate? Do you do internal energy work? Do you practice gazes and such? Its better to improve the wizard than the wand if you get my dift...
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Efficiency is what you are after. Or at least that is the term that I use. We really don't have a good and clear vocabulary for magic, do we?
That was exactly what I was asking about. Ive never came across the concept of varying the rituals to control the "volume" of the experience. There was a deep blue light that hung around in the mirror for a bit while skrying. It introduced me to the concept of pronoia to help make spiritual connections stronger(thru correspondence from hearing iapos) and also told me Im a little dense! Funny, that one.
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